But that all changed following a meeting with French champion Serge Nubret on the road to the Mr. Universe contest. `I met up with Serge in Europe, and at 212 pounds it was clear that I was just too small to compete with some of the guys coming out of Europe,` he says. `Serge told me all about steroids, what works and how it works. I then went home to discuss it with my wife.`
`We talked about whether or not it was worth it for me to take the plunge,` he says. `I was 23 and my career was just starting to take off. Do I quit now or do I try to see how far I could go? That was how I first I got involved.`
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